It has been 17 years and 119 days since the city’s pledge to build the West Branch Library.
For the past few days the Tohono O’odham (TO) have seen news that they can only characterize as awful. On April 24, 2015 the Congressional Budget Office issued a report on cost outcomes to the federal government if the TO is not allowed to build its casino in Glendale. Here is the link: http://www.cbo.gov/publication/50136 . Those who have represented that is an exact cost figure are deliberately misleading people in an attempt to pressure them to drop their opposition to the casino. Now despite the recent outrageous headlines of stopping the casino will cost US taxpayers a billion dollars here are direct quotes from that report:
“Based on information from the Tohono O’odham Nation, CBO expects that if H.R. 308 were enacted, the tribe would pursue litigation against the federal government to recover its financial losses caused by the prohibition on gambling. Whether the tribe would prevail in such litigation and when those proceedings might be concluded are both uncertain. The basis for any judicial determination of the tribe’s financial losses is also uncertain. CBO estimates that possible compensation payments from the government could range from nothing to more than $1 billion; however, we have no basis for estimating the outcome of the future litigation.”
“That decision is now under appeal at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Although the tribe has been successful in litigation thus far and construction of its resort and casino is underway, it may be more difficult for the tribe to prevail in a claim brought after enactment of H.R. 308 because of the types of claims available to it and the facts of this particular situation. The outcome of such litigation is uncertain.”
“Regulatory taking claims are often unsuccessful and usually do not lead to significant economic awards when (as in this case) the taking does not fully diminish the economic value of the property;”
What should disturb everyone is the fact that the TO’s estimated annual income from this proposed casino at $100 million dollars a year or one billion dollars over 10 years. You can hear the sucking sound now as dollars subject to sales tax from nearby businesses vanishes. It’s no more than dollar displacement. People only have so many discretionary dollars. If those dollars are consumed by the TO casino then those dollars are not spent elsewhere in the community and the multiplier effect of each and every dollar is lost.
The second bomb to drop is a poll released by the Sonoran Alliance on April 28, 2015. Here is the link: http://sonoranalliance.com/2015/04/28/new-poll-support-for-glendale-casino-collapses/ . Here is the conclusion drawn from the survey. “Based on the survey results there is overwhelming support from voters to oppose new gaming in the Phoenix metropolitan area. Once voters become aware of the various issues surrounding the conduct of those involved with this proposed casino, opposition grows by 18% to a clear majority in opposition. This survey shows that most of Arizona’s elected officials are acting with large support for their activities in trying to stop this casino.”
The third bomb dropped today, April 30, 2015, was with an article by Bill Theobald of the Republic Washington Bureau entitled Senate committee passes bill to block casino near Glendale. He reports, “The Senate Indian Affairs Committee passed by voice vote legislation sponsored by Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain (and Sen. Jeff Flake)…” Last month the House Natural Resources Committee passed the same legislation. That means that both bills can now be voted up or down by the full House and the full Senate.
Senator McCain, commenting on the Keep the Promise Act of 2015, said in part, “the law doesn’t allow a tribe to ‘air drop’ a casino onto land in a metro area that’s not part of its traditional tribal lands.” He also said, “building another casino in the Phoenix area violates the intent of the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act. ‘I know what the intent of Congress was because I wrote the bill’.” Arizona’s Congressional representatives are not the only legislators hearing complaints from their constituents on this issue. Many other states are facing the same issue of, as McCain puts it, “air dropping” casinos. Consequently there is a lot more support for this legislation than is perceived. It becomes precedent setting and may allow other legislators to stop reservation shopping in their states.
The desperation of the Tohono O’odham becomes more palpable every day. That’s why the press conference after the state announced that it would not grant the TO a gaming license. It is amusing that several headlines and the Op Ed piece in the April 30, 2015 edition of the Glendale Star scream support for the proposed casino. It’s no secret that the paper’s editor, Carolyn Dryer, is a supporter of the casino. In fact, several years ago she attended a pro-casino meeting hosted by former Ocotillo councilmember Norma Alvarez not as the paper’s representative but as a private citizen. Bias oozes from every article on the casino and objective reportage especially on this issue has become a stranger to it.
Ned Norris Jr., Chairman of the Tohono O’odham Nation, vows to fight to the bitter end and he remains adamantly defiant. Councilmember Chavira and Vice Mayor Hugh were good puppets as they reiterated the same, tired arguments of other tribes’ attempts to kill competition. They all conveniently ignore that this action began in secret while the TO pushed Arizona voters to approve the state gaming compact. They conveniently ignore the fact that the tribe kept the purchase of land within Glendale’s boundaries secret from the city for 7 years. They conveniently ignore the fact that the TO deliberately withheld their plan for this casino from its sister tribes for 7 years. As stated by the Arizona Gaming Director, fraud was committed by the Tohono O’odham.
Many supporters of the casino ignore these facts, plead ignorance of them or simply shrug their shoulders while trotting out arguments of a down trodden tribe deserving of this casino no matter how it is acquired. Whatever the casino supporters’ reasoning they should check their moral compasses. Perhaps their tolerance for dishonesty evaporates and is solely dependent upon their perception that their ox is being gored.
© Joyce Clark, 2015
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Joyce,
You seem like such a rational person, but this casino project has really gotten under your skin in a major way.
Please include, along with your negative casino comments, the good alternatives the city has.
I have not read any of your comments regarding the other destructive options the TO’s certainly have and will certainly use if the casino is shut down.
I don’t particularly want a casino at that location but I sure as heck don’t want a huge retail complex or mega apartments there either.
PJ, thank you for your comments. You are correct. I will fight the casino until all recourse is exhausted. As for alternatives to the casino it matters not one whit what you, I or anyone else thinks would be good alternatives. Ned Norris will decide.
So here is my $0.02. Polls are worthless. COMPLETELY worthless. Anyone can get any result depending on how the poll is both structured and given. Joyce is a smart person, she’ll probably agree. I also know she is anti-casino. I’m not.
What I don’t get is all this hanging on the “keep the promise” rhetoric. Show me any politician, and probably a lot of business people, who follow a strict “I’ll keep my word” mentality. it’s sad. But most argue for the moment to get what they want. The gaming pact was drawn up a long time ago in a city with a different landscape. Since then more people have come here and spread out to all corners. Point is. Things change. Glendale sat on that land for YEARS. Oops. The TO weren’t up front with their intentions. Well, Duh. I’m sure someone could have discovered the truth about the “real” purchaser had they wanted to dig. No one did.
We have what, 4 or 5 casinos, mostly in the South East where people flock to. A lot of people go to Laughlin and Vegas on a regular basis. I’m guessing many of them are also “anti casino” folks. Joyce, last time you went to such a place? if you don’t go to casinos, bravo. Points for having a conviction. But it IS a legal pass-time. Location, location location. it’s OK to gamble in spot “X”, but not on spot “Y”. Silly. Nevada isn’t exactly Sodom and Gamorrah.
The TO Nation is a sovereign nation. I get that. You can complain about it but they got the land. Casino or not, it’s still gonna be reservation land unless I missed something. I don’t think anyone is suing to undo that piece. Glendale flipped it’s position. Not the best image for the city but, let’s all jump on the bandwagon is we were on the losing team, right?
Personally, I’d rather live next to a casino/resort like Talking Stick or Casino Arizona than the high school that exists there already. probably won’t change anyone’s minds. But, seems like a lot of hot air being blown when there really are bigger issues and better uses for our time and money. Library? Courthouse? Northern Parkway? Parks?
I swore I was never going to weigh in again on this issue, but the level of ridiculousness it has risen to is almost beyond comprehension. First of all, I am not even in favor of Indian Gaming…as it is poorly regulated and the financial gain to the community is miniscule compared to the gain of the sponsoring tribe. However, having said that, the TO have not violated any compact and the “Keep the Promise” garbage is just that – garbage. People might not like how the TO acquired the land or put this project together…but they did it legally. I have read the compact…it is a matter of public record available on the Arizona Gaming Commission’s website..and I challenge anyone to find anything in that compact that prohibits the TO from doing what they are doing or even implies that they are “breaking any promise”.
The whole argument is utter garbage…but what is really the most disturbing thing about this sordid affair is that now politicians like McCain, Franks, Flake and company are lining their pockets with re-election and campaign dollars from the tribes opposed to this casino. The economic benefit from these casinos is supposed to be reaped by members of the tribes, not politicians…and they are to go toward improving their quality of life on the reservation. The millions (maybe more, depending on whose report you believe) of taxpayer and tribal dollars that have been wasted on this fight is atrocious. These economic development dollars should NEVER be used to support politicians and political fights. The “losers” in this are the tribal members and taxpayers who are footing the bills for all the legal fights.
I really don’t care if the casino is built or not, but I do care about politicians gaining financially from this. That is fundamentally wrong and if we are to make disparaging remarks about the TO’s “ethics”, then we should equally question the “ethics” of their sister tribes in paying politicians for their support. Let this matter stand on its own merits…in the courts…without influence from the politicians.
In actuality, the only “winners” in this whole fiasco will be the attorneys raking in the cash by keeping the fight alive. The whole thing is so sad on so many levels…and from both sides. Previous poster Doug is correct…there are far more important issues to be exerting our energies on…this is no longer one of them.
If you are concerned about politicians lining their campaign pockets, like McCain, Flake, et al, then what about those on the Glendale City Council that have received campaign contributions to change their campaign promises and their votes/stance on the casino? I have no problem with the TO building a casino, but not on a county island within city limits. Casino gambling is not legal in Arizona, which is why it is done on tribal lands. We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg here. This could lead to all out “tribal” war, and the only losers will be us not living on the res.
Same thing goes for local elected politicians, Bill.
I have worked in and around gaming for over 20 years. We may not like how the TO’s got this far, but they did it legally. The TO’s can do what they did, and the county island is now part of their “reservation”. They took advantage of a very poorly crafted piece of federal legislation. It is the “tip of the iceberg” and the only way to ultimately stop this “reservation shopping” is for the state to allow commercial casino gaming and it will force the tribal casinos out of business. They cannot compete with highly regulated commercial gaming…it has happened in other states. I have personally seen what is happening in Arizona occur in two other states and it is really sad that our state can’t seem to learn from other state’s mistakes/successes. Guess we will keep blundering along with this and letting it get way more convoluted than it needs to be.
As a sideline, if most people knew what odds the “house” has in tribal casinos on slots and table games, they would never spend a nickel in one. It’s obscene… and very unregulated, compared to commercial gaming. I would never gamble in any Arizona tribal casino…and anyone that does is a fool.
Joyce could do her readers a favor by doing a comparison of tribal slot/table wins/percentages vs commercial gaming..the data is available, but it pretty hard to find. People would be shocked.
Doug,
“It’s still gonna be reservation land” is exactly the point. The anti casino people have no answer regarding the problems that may arise if the TO’s don’t get the casino.
If the anti people win the fight, what happens? One can only assume that this is an anti TO/pro Gila River issue only.
Are the anti politicians on the Gila a River political contribution payroll? Not sure, but if I were a betting man…….
I can’t wait for anti’s to belly ache about any project that the TO’s put on that land. I don’t like casinos but in my opinion, this has nothing to do with casinos.
Joyce, KEEP ON FIGHTING! Believe me, there are plenty of people who DO NOT want the casino and I am certainly one of them.
I live in Rovey Farms. My sons attend Kellis. We were so excited to move from another part of Glendale to this particular community nine years ago. We have built the life we wanted in the area we wanted. We have wonderful neighbors, enjoy local events, and are very happy here.
Except for the casino.
I feel cheated, lied to and betrayed. We voted, with the majority, not to allow casinos in our neighborhoods. We should have been safe to buy a house where we wanted and not be surprised to have a massive casino move in literally down the street.
We were not informed when we purchased our home that the tribe already owned that land and intended to build a casino. I would NOT have purchased in this area at all had the tribe been open and honest about their plans. They knew families were actively buying and building homes in this area and kept their mouths shut.
The sheer deceit alone should infuriate our community.
So, please, keep up the fight. The families who live here and were robbed of the protection Prop 202 was supposed to provide need you to do so.